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JAX: commitment issues

Posted on 15 June 2026

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Imagine you have JAX code like this, and run it on a machine with CUDA set up:

key = jax.random.key(42)

cpu0 = jax.devices("cpu")[0]<br>with jax.default_device(cpu0):<br>array = jax.random.randint(<br>key,<br>(530640, 6, 1024),<br>0, 50_000,<br>dtype=jax.numpy.uint16<br>array.block_until_ready()

item = array[0]<br>item.block_until_ready()

We're creating a big array, blocking until it's ready (JAX is asynchronous, so<br>this makes sure that it's actually finished creating it), then getting<br>the first item, and as a belt-and-braces thing making sure that that is ready too.<br>How long do you think those last two lines -- a simple retrieval of a 6 x 1024 array<br>from a larger one -- will take? Some tiny fraction of a second would seem<br>reasonable.

But running it on my machine just now, the answer is a bit of a surprise: just over 5 seconds. And if you try to<br>get array[1] immediately afterwards, it still takes about 1.2s. Further lookups into<br>array consistently take more than a second -- so while the larger<br>initial number might be something to do with setup -- maybe internal stuff being JITted -- that's clearly not the whole story.<br>Something is making these seemingly-simple array lookups take much longer than you'd<br>expect them to.

Let's dig into that.

A bit of background

First things first, why would you want to do that slightly strange dance with the<br>jax.default_device context manager in the first place, rather than telling randint what<br>device you want to use (eg. with out_sharding)?

I'm writing some LLM training<br>code, and want to load my training dataset. I don't want to load it into the VRAM<br>on the GPU -- that would be a waste of valuable GPU resources -- so I need it in<br>the CPU-side memory. I'm using Safetensors, which will<br>load stuff onto the system's default device.<br>So I need to override that temporarily to make sure that the dataset is loaded onto<br>the device where I want it.

I initially discovered this problem when I tried to...

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