Extra hidden computations in LLM using dot tokens for multi-hop reasoning

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Kaley Brauer šŸ’« (@kaleybrauer): "If you ask a frontier LLM a multi-hop reasoning question, e.g., "Who won the Nobel Prize for Chemistry in (1900 + Mozart's age when he died)?", it usually can't answer correctly immediately (no thinking)

BUT if you ask the same question & append 300 dots, suddenly it can answer?" | XCancel

Kaley Brauer šŸ’«@kaleybrauer

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If you ask a frontier LLM a multi-hop reasoning question, e.g., "Who won the Nobel Prize for Chemistry in (1900 + Mozart's age when he died)?", it usually can't answer correctly immediately (no thinking)

BUT if you ask the same question & append 300 dots, suddenly it can answer?

Jul 17, 2026 Ā· 6:31 PM UTC

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Kaley Brauer šŸ’«@kaleybrauer

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Clearly the models are using the dot tokens to do extra hidden computation (looking up facts, doing math)

We investigated how + what the models are doing and showed the computation is readable from the hidden states over the "meaningless" filler tokens: arxiv.org/abs/2607.03502

Reading Between the Dots: Decoding Hidden Computation across Filler Tokens

Frontier LLMs can perform multi-step reasoning over content-free filler tokens like dots or counting sequences, producing correct answers with no visible chain-of-thought (CoT). This is a limit...

arxiv.org

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Kaley Brauer šŸ’«@kaleybrauer

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Just presented this at #ICML 2026 Mechanistic Interpretability Workshop in Seoul! So many wonderful people doing fascinating work

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Alman Gonzaleshvili

@gonzaleshvili

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Replying to @kaleybrauer

Excellent paper, this is one of those arguments that starts with a hunch and ends with substantial findings. Thank you, this supports my proposal that semantically/semioticslly each token can carry many more data than just "words" .

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samlaf

@samlafer

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Replying to @kaleybrauer

How is this different from train of thought? Couldn’t the LLM learn to generate its own ā€œdots whiteboardā€ with optimal length by itself..?

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Ashraf@Ashraf_Medhat93

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Replying to @kaleybrauer

Will it work if you just added empty spaces or underscore instead of dots?

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1) What@anachronistical

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Replying to @kaleybrauer

Emergent pause-token computation?

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Cam Turner@CameronTurner55

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Replying to @kaleybrauer @burny_tech

Adding more space to a prompt leaves room for reasoning🤯

Austin Ray

@austospumanto

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Replying to @kaleybrauer

Makes sense. Fun!

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Tonic@decaf100

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Replying to @kaleybrauer

I think it’s why reasoning is so powerful, it’s not just literal reasoning but giving itself more tokens to reason through.

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CK šŸ“ā€ā˜ ļø

@cyprianpl

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Replying to @kaleybrauer

How many dots until AGI?

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Bearuo Bear@BearuoB60982

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Replying to @kaleybrauer

Haiku 4.5 (no deep reasoning)

Cam Turner@CameronTurner55

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Replying to @kaleybrauer @burny_tech

I love weird quirks like this.

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Bearuo Bear@BearuoB60982

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Replying to @kaleybrauer

When did you last try that claim on the benefit of appending 300 dots? Sonnet 4.6 Medium is not exactly a frontier LLM.

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Chris Nota

@chris_nota_rl

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Replying to @kaleybrauer

The cool thing is you can use this to do ā€œprefill reasoning,ā€ which . The downside is that you lose the recurrence that you get from real tokens.

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David

@DavidSHolz

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Replying to @kaleybrauer

this is fun and i wonder how much of 'reasoning models' get their boost from this effect versus the actual words they say

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yungmulababy

@yungmulababylol

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Replying to @kaleybrauer @cremieuxrecueil

llm’s have invisible scratch paper

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Kai Sheng Tai@kaishengtai

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Replying to @kaleybrauer

Hah, @lateinteraction and I pitched investigating this ā€œthinking with dotsā€ phenomenon as a project idea for the Stanford NLP class in 2019(?). We didn’t get any takers unfortunately. Glad that someone looked into it.

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RB@530RB

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Replying to @kaleybrauer

It’s just another paper on attention sinks. Giving token space allows attention to work as thoughts (adding reasoning steps is just self-created tokens for the same effect). This is well known.

pekora@pekora45402

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Replying to @kaleybrauer

woah, that's cool! did you ever test parallelizable otherwise 1-step fact addition questions?

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Tim Jackowski

@TakaseStudios

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Replying to @kaleybrauer

This is going to be fun to dig into - thank you for sharing. My favorite stupid AI trick is whatever the answer I get just say "Really?" ... LOL.

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Delip Rao e/σ

@deliprao

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Replying to @kaleybrauer

Is it only dots? I’ve seen dots in reasoning traces, and also dots are correlated with thinking-related vocab. Wondering if you can reproduce this behavior by considering other commonly occurring ngrams from reasoning traces?

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Patty

@Patty_H93

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Replying to @kaleybrauer @cremieuxrecueil

You see stuff like this and realize maybe AGI isn’t as close as we think

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Clif

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kaleybrauer replying reasoning dots tokens answer

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