Richard Sutton leaves Keen Technologies to Start Oak Lab

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Richard Sutton on X: "I can’t say enough good things about John Carmack @ID_AA_Carmack and his Keen Technologies. But now Khurram Javed @kjaved_ and I have broken away to start our own startup and pursue a slightly different path toward understanding intelligence. Like Keen (and like Ineffable) we at Oak Lab @oaklab_ai believe in reinforcement learning and that intelligence is created and maintained from run-time experience. But we think current deep learning methods are weak and inefficient, and need not more tweaks, but fundamentally new ideas and a thorough reworking before they can provide a solid foundation for achieving the more ambitious goals of AI." / X<br>Post

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I can’t say enough good things about John Carmack @ID_AA_Carmack and his Keen Technologies. But now Khurram Javed @kjaved_ and I have broken away to start our own startup and pursue a slightly different path toward understanding intelligence. Like Keen (and like Ineffable) we at Oak Lab @oaklab_ai believe in reinforcement learning and that intelligence is created and maintained from run-time experience. But we think current deep learning methods are weak and inefficient, and need not more tweaks, but fundamentally new ideas and a thorough reworking before they can provide a solid foundation for achieving the more ambitious goals of AI.<br>span:not(:empty)~span:not(:empty)]:before:content-['·'] [&>span:not(:empty)~span:not(:empty)]:before:px-1 [&>span:not(:empty)~span:not(:empty)]:before:shrink-0">1:42 PM · Jul 13, 2026459.2KViews

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Jul 14

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Jul 14

What are your timelines for a trillion-parameter agent that learns and plans in real-time with 20 watts of energy?

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Jul 14

Blank slatism is holding RL back. That's the real bitter lesson.

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Jul 14

An online, predictive, entirely local unsupervised learning system. Cheap, like human intelligence. The holy grail--but I've already got one. ;-)

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Relevant people<br>Richard Sutton@RichardSSuttonFollow<br>Student of mind and nature, libertarian, chess player, cancer survivor. @ https://t.co/pioQVVjSXz, UAlberta, amii, https://t.co/vPRUv44glx, The Royal Society, Turing Award

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