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No longer shows full thinking?Question about Claude models (self.ClaudeAI)<br>submitted 3 days ago by Logical-Physics9884

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Yesterday everything was fine, but this morning when I looked at Claude's thinking blocks, it no longer actually showed him thinking with detail. It switched to a much more concise block down of what it was doing.

I, personally, prefer the former. It might be a new rollout--I haven't seen others talking about it yet.

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[–]ClaudeAI-mod-botWilson, lead ClaudeAI modbot[M] [score hidden] 2 days ago stickied comment (1 child)<br>TL;DR of the discussion generated automatically after 40 comments.

Okay, here's the deal. The thread is in near-unanimous agreement: this change sucks and is a huge downgrade for Claude.

The detailed "thinking" process was a core feature for many, allowing them to catch errors early, debug prompts, and understand the model's logic. Users are calling the new sanitized summary useless, untrustworthy, and a deal-breaker that makes Claude more of a "black box" like its competitors.

The top theories for why Anthropic did this are:<br>* To prevent competitors from distilling the model's logic (a practice where they use Claude's output to train their own AI).<br>* To save on server costs.

To add insult to injury, a highly-upvoted comment points out that you're likely still paying for the hidden "thinking" tokens even though you can't see them. While some hope it's a bug (it apparently still works on the iOS app for some), documentation suggests this "summarized" mode is an intentional feature. The community is demanding Anthropic revert this change, ASAP.

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[–]Eyelbee 54 points55 points56 points 2 days ago (16 children)<br>Yes they seemingly removed it shortly after the release of k3. I was surprised no one is talking about it. It might also be helping with the total capacity a little bit.

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[–]Dell_Experion15 70 points71 points72 points 2 days ago (12 children)<br>They’re still reasoning behind the scenes, now they are just hiding the tokens.

This is bothersome because you are paying for those tokens whether you see them or not.

When I’m monitoring a LLM, I’m also watching the “reasoning.” The reasoning is where it makes a wrong move, or...