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SKEPTOID BLOG:
"Furthermore, I am of the opinion that Carthage should be destroyed"
by<br>Bruno Van de Casteele
May 10, 2015
Recently, at work, we were discussing some changes that really needed to be made to our IT architectural landscape (decommissioning of old spaghetti-like applications and implementing more modern tools). One of the biggest challenges would be to convince senior management that the changesactuallyneeded to be made, and we agreed during that discussion that we would need to repeat that message severaltimes in the months to come. As a history buff, I gave as an example of such tenacity Cato the Elder, the Roman statesman who lived from 234 BCE to 149 BCE. Towards the end of his life he kept on insisting that Carthage (Rome’s archenemy), after two previous conflicts, was still a danger to the Republic and needed to be destroyed in a Third Punic War. Most famously, he was known to add as a closing remark to any speech he made, whatever the topic, “Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam” (meaning, "furthermore, I am of the opinion that Carthage should be destroyed").
He got what he wanted posthumously, as Carthage was destroyed and burned to the ground in 146 BCE, and any habitation in the vicinity was forbidden. Any student of Latin has heard this anecdote, and could probably repeat by heart these words. It is indeed a very powerfulstory, but did it really happen?
As any good skeptic checking on older stories aboutUFOs or hauntings, we should of course try to check original sources as close as possible to or even from Cato himself. Thisis aproblem, in the case of Cato, as we hardly have any sources from this era. Even worse, we do not seem to have manysecondary sources from a later era (by historians or rhetoricians) describing Cato or this period, as here, too, there arelotsof gaps in the surviving literature. And the quote itself seems to have a lot of variants.
Luckily, during my search I stumbled upon a 1934 article by Arthur Little,whichsummarizes best our understanding of the extant literature. The article is behind a paywall and is notcited much, so here is a summary of the main findings.
We have no direct sources from that era, neither speeches by Cato nor reports nor official documents, detailing this utterance.
The first reference of Cato’s animosity against Carthage is by Cicero, writing 100 years after Cato'sdeath. Ciceromentions in De Senectute that Cato agitated against Carthage constantly, and claiming that he wanted it excised (not destroyed). We can conclude from this, therefore, that Cato'sanimosity was probably real, and that such words may have been uttered (though maybe not every time). Cicero (who happens to be one of my most favouritephilosophers) was probably not lying, although he could have been embellishing on an urban legend going around, even if he had direct access to Cato's recorded speeches.
We are sadly missing some or all of the chapters about this period in the historical works by Polybius or Livy. The latter one alludes to it in surviving books and might have quoted the original wording in the lost parts. Importantly, he also mentions Scipio Nasica, another statesman from the period (and a relative of the famous Scipio Africanus) who argued the opposite. This gives the impression that the Carthage question was indeed debated, and that there seemed to be two opposing groups.
The first clear statement is from Pliny the Elder, writing more than 200 years after the fact. In his Naturalis Historia he mentions the repetition and the words “delendam” (to be destroyed). He also places it, according to Little, in a declamatory setting. Plinycould have been quoting from the speeches directly, since it can be shown that they were not yet lost at the time.
We have the most mentions in the second century CE. Plutarch gives the entire story of Cato's visit to a prosperous Carthage with a well-equipped military, bringing a fig to the Senate for a theatrical speech about the dangers lurking “only three days’ sail away.” And we have, from Plutarch, the first quotation of the all the words in the well-known quote.
Little concludes from this that Pliny the Elder and Plutarch have created or at least embellished...